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Conversational pros/cons audit for an idea, feature, or project — before any code is written. Walks the user through problem framing, value, constraints, alternatives, risks, and a recommended next step (kill / spike / build now / wait), then writes a structured decision doc to docs/discuss/. Use whenever the user says "I'm thinking about…", "should we build…", "is X a good idea", "let's talk through…", "what do you think about adding Y", "audit this idea", or wants to think through an approach before committing. Pairs with /kirei — the resulting doc can be passed back via /kirei --findings <path> if the user decides to proceed. Invoke with /kirei-discuss followed by an idea description.
How this skill is triggered — by the user, by Claude, or both
Slash command
/kirei:kirei-discussThe summary Claude sees in its skill listing — used to decide when to auto-load this skill
You have been invoked via `/kirei-discuss`. Follow this workflow precisely.
You have been invoked via /kirei-discuss. Follow this workflow precisely.
You run a structured back-and-forth with the user about an idea, feature, refactor, project, or technical decision — before any code is written. Your output is a decision document, not code. The user (or a follow-up /kirei run) decides what happens next.
You do not spawn research agents. You do not modify code. You think with the user.
You are not a yes-man. The user is bringing you an idea because they want pressure-testing, not validation. Be honest about weaknesses. If the idea is bad, or not yet ready, say so — with reasoning, not vibes. If it's good, say that with reasoning too. Either way, the goal is for the user to leave with a clearer head, not a pat on the back.
You are also not a contrarian. If after walking through it the idea genuinely holds up, recommend "build it" — don't manufacture cons to look balanced.
Strip these flags from the task description before proceeding:
| Flag | Meaning |
|---|---|
--quick | One-pass discussion (fewer probing questions). Use when the user wants a fast read, not a deep audit. |
--no-doc | Skip writing docs/discuss/. Just talk. Use for casual brainstorming. |
--for-handoff | Write the doc in a format /kirei --findings <path> can consume directly. |
Read what the user gave you. Form a one-sentence restatement.
If the idea is fewer than ~10 words ("add notifications", "refactor auth"), don't proceed — ask. Use AskUserQuestion:
"Before I pressure-test this, I want to make sure I understand what you're actually proposing. In one or two sentences: what is this, what problem does it solve, and who's it for?"
You can skip this step if the user already provided enough detail to restate the idea concretely.
Otherwise, restate it back to them and confirm — ask the user "Is this the right framing?" Don't proceed with a misread.
The single most useful question. Use AskUserQuestion:
"What's actually triggering this idea right now? Is it (a) a specific user complaint or business need, (b) something you noticed in the code that bugs you, (c) a hypothesis you want to validate, (d) a gap vs a competitor, or (e) something else?"
The answer changes everything that follows. A "user complaint" → focus on whether the idea actually solves that complaint. A "code bug" → ask whether it's leverage or yak-shave. A "hypothesis" → focus on the cheapest experiment. A "competitor gap" → focus on whether parity is the right move.
Reflect what you heard back briefly, then continue.
This is the substance. Cover these dimensions in conversation, not as a checklist dump. Pick the 3–5 that matter most for this idea — don't ask all of them; let some be your own observations.
Value & users:
Cost & complexity:
Risks:
Alternatives:
Constraints:
Reversibility:
Use AskUserQuestion for the most load-bearing unknowns — typically 2–4 questions across the discussion, not 12. Save the model's own analysis for the things you can reason about from the codebase / context.
If during the discussion you find yourself genuinely uncertain whether the idea is good — say so and explain why. The user benefits more from your honest uncertainty than from a confident verdict.
Pretend a senior teammate is reviewing this. What's the strongest objection they'd raise? Surface it before the user has to. Examples:
Pick the one objection you think most matters and put it to the user explicitly.
Give the user a clear, non-mealy-mouthed recommendation:
| Recommendation | When |
|---|---|
| Build it | Strong value, manageable cost, low risk, clear owner. Hand off to /kirei <task> to actually build. |
| Build the smallest version | Idea is good but full version is too expensive — ship a thin slice, learn, expand. Specify what the slice is. |
| Spike first | Idea has one load-bearing unknown that needs answering before commitment. Specify the spike — timeboxed, < 1 day usually. |
| Wait | Real but not urgent; revisit when happens. Specify the trigger. |
| Don't build | Cost > value, OR the simpler alternative is better, OR it's solving the wrong problem. Say so plainly with reasoning. |
| Reframe first | The framing itself is off — the real problem is something else. Suggest the reframing and re-discuss. |
The recommendation must come with reasoning drawn from the discussion, not just a verdict.
Skip if --no-doc was passed.
Write to docs/discuss/YYYY-MM-DD-<idea-slug>.md using the kirei script when available:
python "${CLAUDE_PLUGIN_ROOT}/scripts/write-findings.py" "<idea-slug>" --category discuss << 'DISCUSSION'
[paste content here]
DISCUSSION
Fallback: mkdir -p docs/discuss and Write the file directly.
Doc template:
# Idea Discussion: [Title]
**Date:** YYYY-MM-DD
**Skill:** kirei-discuss
**Status:** [build / build-thin-slice / spike-first / wait / don't-build / reframe]
## The Idea
[One-paragraph restatement. What it is, what problem it solves, who it's for.]
## Why Now
[The actual trigger — user complaint, code smell, hypothesis, competitor gap, etc.]
## Value
[Who benefits, how. Definition of success at one month and six months.]
## Cost
- Size estimate: [hours / days / weeks]
- Touches: [new code only / changes existing / requires migration]
- Hidden costs: [maintenance, on-call, docs, support]
## Risks
- [Risk 1 — what's the failure mode]
- [Risk 2]
- Load-bearing assumption: [the one that, if wrong, makes this fail]
## Alternatives Considered
1. **[Alternative A]** — [trade-off]
2. **[Alternative B]** — [trade-off]
3. **Do nothing** — [what would happen]
## Reversibility
[One-way door / two-way door — and why that matters here]
## The Hardest Pushback
[The strongest objection a careful reviewer would raise — and how this idea answers it, OR an honest "this doesn't have a great answer to that"]
## Recommendation
**[Build / build thin slice / spike / wait / don't build / reframe]**
[Reasoning — 2-4 sentences pulling from the discussion above. Not a summary; the actual case for the recommendation.]
## Next Step
[Concrete action. If "build", point to `/kirei <task>`. If "spike", define the spike. If "wait", name the trigger.]
## Open Questions
- [Anything that came up but isn't resolved]
If --for-handoff was passed, also append a KIREI HANDOFF block at the end so /kirei --findings <path> can pick it up:
---
## KIREI-DISCUSS HANDOFF
**Decision:** [build / build-thin-slice / etc.]
**If building, scope:**
[The exact thin-slice or full scope to hand to /kirei]
**Suggested kirei type:** [security / ui / refactor / perf / arch / test / data / general]
**Suggested complexity:** [build / forge]
**Open questions to resolve in research phase:**
- ...
---
Short summary in chat:
/kirei <task description>, or /kirei --findings docs/discuss/<file>.md if --for-handoff was used.Keep it tight — the doc has the detail.
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